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Consular appeals to the army in 88 and 87

The locus of legitimacy in late-republican Rome

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ID23458014
AuthorsRobert Morstein‐Marx (corresponding author), Robert Morstein-Marx
EditorsHans Beck (0000-0002-0319-1186), Antonio Duplá, Martin Jehne, Francisco Pina Polo (0000-0001-8708-6211)
Year2011
Pages259-278
Publication date2011-10-06
Peer ReviewedYes
Open AccessNo
TypeCHAPTER
VenueConsuls and Res Publica (SOURCE_BOOK)
PublisherCambridge University Press (PUBLISHER • US)
DOI10.1017/cbo9780511736124.014
OpenAlexW2133393266
ISBN9780511736124
LanguageEN
Citations received2

In mid-March of 49, Cicero was in anguish over what to do now that Pompey had crossed to Greece and Caesar was pressing him for support or at least neutrality. His personal obligation to Pompey weighed heavily with him, he writes, but on the other hand he represents joining Pompey as committing himself to fight a civil war with Sullan vindictiveness and ferocity. From Formiae he writes to Atticus on March 18 that he was deterred from joining Pompey above all by “the kind of war intended, savage and vast beyond what men yet see.” It is interesting that for Cicero at this point it is Pompey , not Caesar, who is the Sullan counterpart: Sulla potuit, ego non potero? Cicero then runs through some historical precedents, which he ultimately rejects – those of Tarquin, Coriolanus and the Athenian Hippias – and one that he embraces: that of Themistocles, according to the tradition that made him commit suicide in order not to join the Great King's war against his country. He proceeds: “But you may object that Sulla, or Marius, or Cinna acted rightly. Yes, justifiably, perhaps ( immo iure fortasse ); but once victorious, they were unequalled in cruelty and slaughter.” Cicero goes on to reject this kind of war quite forcefully, especially since Pompey and his friends were preparing (he claims) to surpass even those bloody precedents in savagery. Cicero's imaginary interlocutor's objection – that “Sulla, or Marius, or Cinna acted rightly” – and his response – “yes, justifiably, perhaps,” while drawing an implied distinction between their behavior before and in victory – should pique our interest. Evidently he did not put Sulla, Marius and Cinna in quite the same category as Coriolanus, Tarquin or Hippias. He concedes that they may be seen as having had justice on their side, although their actions were deeply tainted by the use they made of victory. But this nuanced point of view is a far cry from the nearly unanimous chorus of disapproval raised in modern scholarship against these men's decisions to take up arms against what is frequently, but tendentiously, referred to as “the state.” In this usage, however, “the state” is not a neutral description of a particular locus of governmental authority, but a normative one that presupposes legitimacy – and that is precisely what was contested by Sulla in 88 (and 83–82), by Marius and Cinna in 87 (as well as Caesar in 49).

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Citations per year0,17
Citation span2014 - 2024 (11)
Citation velocityrecent
Highly citedNo
Citation typesNeutral: 2

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