Interview with Hollis Frampton

Frampton: There were earlier things, only one of which will ever conceivably turn up again. The others are lost. I started making films in 1962, but I wasn't prolific. It was expensive to do. There were three long films and a short one before Process Red, which is the earliest finished film I now distribute. The first was called Ten Mile Poem-ghastly stuff. It was shot in Brooklyn from the Myrtle Avenue elevated, which has since been torn down. The film was in motion the whole time. It ran from the heart of downtown Brooklyn out to Metropolitan Avenue on the border of Queens. It was probably about twenty-five minutes-rather longand was shot over a period of three or four months on Saturdays and Sundays. I filmed out the side window, perpendicular to the travel of the train, with moderate telephoto lenses, so that unless a backyard suddenly opened on vistas of laundry, the contents of the frame tended to wipe out, to become abstract, to flatten. The film was in color, silent, and was projected until it dropped dead. A second film was shot in Fort Green Park, again in Brooklyn, not because I lived there, but because at that time I was seeing a great deal of Carl Andre, who

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